Posts by Actigall Ur

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Another anti-gay Republican Senator (in the USA) caught advertising his body

by fulltimestudent in

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why do the republicans seem to have a monopoly on this behaviour?.

Actigall Ur

I think lumping a sexual orientation in with deviant / perverted behavior will anger many people and is grossly unfair. They are not equivalent things by any stretch.

Simon, the line you are walking is very thin with that statement because as I said, the rabbit hole goes deep on the philosophical aspect of this subject. It's quite relative to everything. For example, Western culture finds marriage to a 10 year old girl disgusting but in MENA it is quite common and acceptable.

Why would a 70 year old man dating a 17 year old girl be disgusting to you not someone else or vice versa? WHO says what is acceptable and not?

A homosexual might find a zoophile disgusting and vice versa. Using similar reasoning, a homosexual might find a heterosexual relationship disgusting for the same reasons a heterosexual finds homosexuals repulsive. Who is to say what is deviant and not? What is the standard to judge this on?

This topic has no clear answers.

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Another anti-gay Republican Senator (in the USA) caught advertising his body

by fulltimestudent in

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why do the republicans seem to have a monopoly on this behaviour?.

Actigall Ur

I think that is a little unfair. Just because someone says they don't want the lifestyle pushed in their face doesn't make them homophobic or closet gay.
I have no problem with people being gay, having gay pride parades, getting married, having all the same rights everyone else does or whatever they want but I also don't think it's appropriate to deliberately try to shock / disgust other which is what some few do - that is what I take having the lifestyle pushed in your face to mean. There's nothing wrong to say we don't like that - the fact is I don't like loud people in general or whoever it is doing what I consider to be inappropriate things in the wrong setting, gay or straight.
It's this militant / black-white / for-us or against-us type of rhetoric that really undermines sympathy in people's situation. When people go out looking to offend so they can claim they are being persecuted and unfairly treated if they succeed.
Just act like everyone else who honors the social norms. I don't care if two people walk down the street holding hands whether they are gay or straight. If I dislike a couple making out in public on a park bench it's not because of whether they are gay or straight, it's because I think it's inappropriate.
Equality is being treated equally which also means having your behavior judged just the same as everyone else.

@Simon- Thank you for the bit of sound reasoning. I could not have said it better myself. Being at work limits my multi-tasking ability writing on this forum but as you said, some make it so blatantly obvious for the sake of making other irritated. Reminds me of this disgusting individual who suffered from some terrible intestinal disease which caused him to produce vast amounts of excess, putrid gas. He knew we all hated it so he purposely did it at the conference table, in the cafeteria, in the cubicle, just anywhere he knew it would annoy us.

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Another anti-gay Republican Senator (in the USA) caught advertising his body

by fulltimestudent in

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friends

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why do the republicans seem to have a monopoly on this behaviour?.

Actigall Ur

@Vidiot- I didn't leave the JW cult because they were not "conservative enough" (as if that is a bad thing) or "authoritarian enough" (too much is a bad thing) but rather because it is a family destroying cult built upon lies and interpretations of a few old senile narcissists.

When I was in the Borg, I always pondered the thought of "God" making people gay and then judging them based on their defective genetic material. No loving "God" would have allowed that.

See you have me all wrong. We are ALL just victims of the roll of the cosmic dice. I certainly don't hate gays! Just because I find their sexual affinities, shall we say, "repulsive" doesn't mean I hate them as a human.

BTW, the rabbit hole goes very deep with this one. The case made that pedophiles, homosexuals, necrophiliacs, zoophilics etc are all captives of their genetic material cannot be denied, nor should it. So the question is, which is acceptable and which is not?

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The six newest Kingdom Songs are all about preaching

by Splash in

140. the life of a pioneer141.

searching for friends of peace142.

preaching to all sorts of people143.

Actigall Ur

@Simon and Fredo- You guys! I'm literally LMFAO!

But have you actually HEARD THE MUSIC?

The one song sounds like a remix from a $5 Mexican mariachi street band mixed with elements of the Jurassic Park theme and Captain America! LOL I was like WTF!

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Another anti-gay Republican Senator (in the USA) caught advertising his body

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

link.

why do the republicans seem to have a monopoly on this behaviour?.

Actigall Ur

There's been a lot of research on these attitudes, some of which I've posted before.
We may assume that he means that he gets upset, when he sees two men walking hand in hand, or hugging or kissing. Why? The research indicates that heterosexual men do not generally get upset over such things, but men who are attracted to the same sex, but have deeply buried their feelings for men and persuaded themselves that those feelings are a sin or so do get upset. In other words they suffer from an internalised homophobia. My gayxjw friend (whom I guess I defend here) was once confronted with a ranting street preacher, going on and on about the sin of Sodom (which he did not understand at all). My friend turned to him and said, "Oh! I see the gay fairy kissed you too."
The guy went into meltdown.
So when you see someone like Actigall UR, you can feel sympathetic. He's having a difficult time dealing with his innermost, deeply buried feelings. If he sees two blokes kissing, he's ripped apart inside. He needs sympathy, not confrontation, as difficult as that may be in the circumstance of centuries of Christian hatred expressed toward gay people.
I think you'll understand

Sorry bloke, but I think your projecting. You see, I'm an atheist so there is no "Christian hatred" persuading my sentiment. And I couldn't care less when two gays hold hands or whatever. On the contrary, I have a great sympathy for them and wish them well and all the luck in the world with their happiness. After all, the way I conclude, it was their defective genetic material passed down from their parents that caused them to be attracted to another man's lower digestive track. So it just as well could have been me - one giant roll of the cosmic dice, as Carl Sagan likes to say.

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Another anti-gay Republican Senator (in the USA) caught advertising his body

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

link.

why do the republicans seem to have a monopoly on this behaviour?.

Actigall Ur

OMG you're one of THOSE. And what exactly is the "gay lifestyle"? Does that mean that when my TV channel broadcasts shows like Holiday Reps (shows with lots of young drunk, vomitting, naked, straight people who have sex in the street and in nightclubs while throwing up over each other in various European holiday resorts) that they are forcing the heterosexual lifestyle in my face? Please stop with the hypocrisy or take your homophobia somewhere where it's appreciated. Rant over.

Yawn. Here's that big bad "homophobia" name calling again. LOL Do you want to add racist, bigot, misogynist and NAZI also? Sure, why not? I'll accept that. After all, I'm a white, straight male. I'm enemy number one to the libturd agenda!

Ohhh my feelings! I'm so hurt I think I'll kill myself now!

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The public prosecuter is interested in getting information on JWs.

by Driving Force in

background information.

i myself am in full fade mode with an overly active jw wife, who refuses to discuss any point whatsoever.

a friend who is not a jw nor has ever been a jw; he studied for a few months, then realized what an evil cult it is and stopped.

Actigall Ur

Very good! Now if you guys want to help get the US Attorney General to investigate them then sign this:

https://www.change.org/p/united-states-attorney-general-investigate-the-watchtower-society-of-jehovah-s-witnesses-re-child-sexual-abuse

Only 21 more signatures needed! Come on guys! Let's turn up the HEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Another anti-gay Republican Senator (in the USA) caught advertising his body

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

link.

why do the republicans seem to have a monopoly on this behaviour?.

Actigall Ur

Which makes you wonder about the GB, giving their virtually endless rants against "sexual immorality".

I know of an elder who was the biggest anti-adultery proponent that you or I have ever known and loved to make comments at the WT study about it whenever he could. Turns out he was sleeping with a married sister with two kids,with the affair lasting supposedly over several years! Oh, and his own daughter caught them in the act.... oooppps!

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Proof that the lingiusts are lying about words used in the bible IE: Shaddai, Angels, Elohim, Yhwh?

by Crazyguy in

in 1967 an archeologist found at tell el-deir alla an inscription that they called the book of balaam son of beor.

this looks to be about the same balaam that's talked about in the bible book of numbers.

remember the guy where his donkey is talking to him.

Actigall Ur

I wouldn't exactly call this proof but you are on the right track. I did similar research years ago when I was still a Borg and was amazed to discover those ancient Mesopotamians wrote the "bible" long before the "bible" was ever dreamed up! Ever hear of the "Code of Hammurabi?"

Does this sound similar to something you have been reading as "god's word?"

Slander
Ex. Law #127: "If any one "point the finger" at a sister of a god or the wife of any one, and can not prove it, this man shall be taken before the judges and his brow shall be marked. (by cutting the skin, or perhaps hair.)" [21]
Trade
Ex. Law #265: "If a herdsman, to whose care cattle or sheep have been entrusted, be guilty of fraud and make false returns of the natural increase, or sell them for money, then shall he be convicted and pay the owner ten times the loss." [21]
Slavery
Ex. Law #15: "If any one take a male or female slave of the court, or a male or female slave of a freed man, outside the city gates, he shall be put to death." [21]
The duties of workers
Ex. Law #42: "If any one take over a field to till it, and obtain no harvest therefrom, it must be proved that he did no work on the field, and he must deliver grain, just as his neighbor raised, to the owner of the field." [21]
Theft
Ex. Law #22: "If any one is committing a robbery and is caught, then he shall be put to death."[21]
Food
Ex. Law #104: "If a merchant give an agent corn, wool, oil, or any other goods to transport, the agent shall give a receipt for the amount, and compensate the merchant therefor. Then he shall obtain a receipt from the merchant for the money that he gives the merchant." [21]
Liability
Ex. Law #53: "If any one be too lazy to keep his dam in proper condition, and does not so keep it; if then the dam break and all the fields be flooded, then shall he in whose dam the break occurred be sold for money, and the money shall replace the corn which he has caused to be ruined." [21]
Divorce
Ex. Law #142: "If a woman quarrel with her husband, and say: "You are not congenial to me," the reasons for her prejudice must be presented. If she is guiltless, and there is no fault on her part, but he leaves and neglects her, then no guilt attaches to this woman, she shall take her dowry and go back to her father's house."[21]
Ex. Law #196: "If a man destroy the eye of another man, they shall destroy his eye. If one break a man's bone, they shall break his bone. If one destroy the eye of a freeman or break the bone of a freeman he shall pay one gold mina. If one destroy the eye of a man's slave or break a bone of a man's slave he shall pay one-half his price."

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Another anti-gay Republican Senator (in the USA) caught advertising his body

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

link.

why do the republicans seem to have a monopoly on this behaviour?.

Actigall Ur

America, for me and all of mine, continues to be 'Great!'
SL

So long as those welfare checks keep paying your bills....
Ignorance is bliss!